Group Members Page
From:
Steven Clift
Date:
2007 Oct 01 23:11 UTC
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For edem and dowire, these spaces are about "public life." Listing names - all
names - is an important virtue. With public groups people always have choice
not to join to remain invisible. Trust is built by treating all members equal
and not institutionalizing different rights for members.
I do think it would be good for group admins to have a choice about when to
disclose both the member names list and member profiles in GS.
Steve
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> ------- Original Message -------
> From: "Michael JasonSmith" <email obscured>>
> To: <email obscured>
> Sent: 9/30/07, 8:42:01 PM
> Subject: [groupserver development] Group Members Page
>
> This post carries on from the posts by Steve and Richard in the
> “Validating feeds from searches, post by/about person, Latest posts” topic
> http://groupserver.org/r/post/3zTY3txKr4FyeF22vYurZT
> http://groupserver.org/r/post/E7MWs12qK6WyZdYkqzPzf
> where they discuss the Group Members page.
>
> There are two basic principals that govern the members page:
> 1. Group members should be able to “lurk”, and
> 2. Group members should be able know who will read the posts.
> To be able to lurk, your name should never be mentioned, which is in
> conflict with the second principal. In addition to the above requirements,
> the main use of the members page is to answer the question “who is in this
> group”. We suspect the user will ask this question as part of the
> evaluation of a group, before joining.
>
> To support these requirements we have devised the following rules for the
> default GroupServer discussion and announcement groups.
>
> * In secret, private, and public groups, group members can view the
> group members page. All members of the group are visible to all the
> other members. Where appropriate, the number of posts made by each
> member is shown, along with a link to the appropriate search for that
> user in the group. For example, all posts by me in GroupServer
> Development
> http://groupserver.org/s/?g=development&a=michaeljasonsmith&t=0&p=1
>
> * In secret and private groups, the group members page is not visible to
> anonymous (logged out) users.
>
> * In public groups that are viewed by logged out users, only the users
> who have posted are shown on the group members page. The posting
> statics are shown, as well as the link to the appropriate for that user
> in the group.
>
> In the generic case, the visibility of the group members page will be
> based on the visiblity of the messages area.
>
> Alice and I are working at rewriting the back-end code that is used to
> generate the Web pages for a group. This is the “Creation of group-classes,
> so the templates contain no logic” item in the roadmap
> http://groupserver.org/groupserver/roadmap/
> We are working from the simple tasks — encoding the rules for joining and
> leaving a group — towards the more complex, such as posting. Alice and I
> naïvely asked Dan what the rules for the members page. It turns out that
> the rules are (or should be) far far far more complex that you would
> imagine at first!
>
>
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